Well i was talking to Jay a.k.a JayHawk We need To switch Over To ULX FAdmin is ment for rp and ULX has less bugs then FAdmin and we need some coders that know Lua I would suggest Getting Emp and Lars and others to apply to a squad of coders im willing to learn Lua just make some stuff for jb and lets get to Pros and Cons on ULX and FAdmin
FAdmin:Pros
Many Commands Im not saying more then ULX
More ways to torture rdmers
Easier to use
No typing
FAdmin:Cons
So many bugs
Not as good ULX
Ment For RP
- Commands don't appear in chat.
- Silent Slay doesn't actually kill the player. It just teleports him to spawn.
- Jailing a player near another player can get them both stuck.
- TeamSwitching players bugs their models/guns.
- TeamSwitching players to spectator/unassigned causes them to be on their own team with yellow names. They can still kill and be killed, but will respawn when killed.
- When using commands with the Tab menu, it switches who you are spectating. Which makes the teleport commands nearly impossible to use while you're dead.
- Ragdoll Normal and Ragdoll Hang will teleport the player to their spawn when unRagdolled.
- There isn't a GUI for banning by SteamID. The console doesn't work. And the chat is nearly impossible to use.
- Permabans don't appear in console.
- The banning GUI doesn't allow you to type the time, you have to use little arrows.
- etc.
ULX:Pros
Many many commands
Many Ways To torture People again
Cleaner Ban list
More Plugins
Source Bans work nice on ULX
Numerous plugins.
- Cleaner ban list.
- Ban characters (Ex: 4w = 4 weeks. FAdmin does everything in minutes. GL using console or chat.)
- Commands appear in chat. (Easier to see for aboose. Players actually know when Staff are doing things.
- Cleaner and more organized menu (Xgui).
- Who commands lets you see all playing staff members.
- SourceBans! and SourceBan plugins.
- More features.

ULX:Cons
Bugs
Dont have Clean Server
List More if you would like And i will add it to the list
Comands
FAdmin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ULX
Slay (Normal, Silent, Explosive, Rocket) Slay (Normal, Silent)
-- Veto, Vote, VoteBan, VoteKick, VoteMap, VoteMap2
Freeze, Jail (Small, Medium, Large) Freeze, Jail
Ignite Ignite, Maul
Motd Motd, Who
SetHealth Hp (Same thing)
Slap (Can be used the same as Whip) Slap, Whip
Strip Weapons Strip Weapons
Ragdoll (Normal, Kick, Hang) Ragdoll
Teleport (Teleport, Bring, GoTo) Teleport (Teleport, Bring, GoTo, Send)
God, Noclip God, Noclip
VoiceMute, ChatMute Gag, Mute (Same thing)
Send Message (Same as PSay) Asay, Csay, Psay, Tsay
-- gimp, thetime
Kick, Ban (Can be used for ID/Very buggy!) Kick, Ban, BanID
Team Switch, Give Weapon --
Clear Decals, CleanUp Server --
So, they're relatively the same. The only major plus for FAdmin would be the fact that there is a TeamSwitch command. But, there are some RP plugins for ULX that could be used to add that same feature. The major plus(es) for ULX are the vote commands, map changing commands (FAdmin has this but it must be used via Rcon, so only SA's can use it), who command, and Chat commands (Asay, Csay, Tsay).

I know that RP uses FAdmin so RP players are like "blah blah blah FAdmin is easier to use and somehow supports more players blah blah blah", but... I'm sure they haven't used the FAdmin for JailBreak. There are just a sheer number of bugs with the current FAdmin that a large portion of the commands are either unusable or are used for another purpose. Here is a small list of some of the current problems with FAdmin:
Lastly, it looks like other JailBreak servers are using ULX themselves and they seem to be doing just as good, if not better, than our server. I was a staff member of TTT for quite some time and so I've spent a bit of time using it; and I honestly thing that it is much better than FAdmin. The only people that say otherwise are RP players who don't suffer what us JB staff members undergo with this ill-suited administrative plugin. FAdmin was made specifically for RP, and ULX was made for ALL servers.

Also, here is another plugin that might go well with ULX.
- SUI_Scoreboard

Ulx do have strip weapons u minge can even read your own photo that you uploaded xP also I kinda code but only editing I need to start with a base code.

Thanks Whip

Here's a little Side-by-Side comparison of the commands for both of 'em:

FAdmin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ULX

Slay (Normal, Silent, Explosive, Rocket)	Slay (Normal, Silent)
--	Veto, Vote, VoteBan, VoteKick, VoteMap, VoteMap2
Freeze, Jail (Small, Medium, Large)	Freeze, Jail
Ignite	Ignite, Maul
Motd	Motd, Who
SetHealth	Hp (Same thing)
Slap (Can be used the same as Whip)	Slap, Whip
Strip Weapons	Strip Weapons
Ragdoll (Normal, Kick, Hang)	Ragdoll
Teleport (Teleport, Bring, GoTo)	Teleport (Teleport, Bring, GoTo, Send)
God, Noclip	God, Noclip
VoiceMute, ChatMute	Gag, Mute (Same thing)
Send Message (Same as PSay)	Asay, Csay, Psay, Tsay
--	gimp, thetime
Kick, Ban (Can be used for ID/Very buggy!)	Kick, Ban, BanID
Team Switch, Give Weapon	--
Clear Decals, CleanUp Server	--

So, they're relatively the same. The only major plus for FAdmin would be the fact that there is a TeamSwitch command. But, there are some RP plugins for ULX that could be used to add that same feature. The major plus(es) for ULX are the vote commands, map changing commands (FAdmin has this but it must be used via Rcon, so only SA's can use it), who command, and Chat commands (Asay, Csay, Tsay).

I know that RP uses FAdmin so RP players are like "blah blah blah FAdmin is easier to use and somehow supports more players blah blah blah", but... I'm sure they haven't used the FAdmin for JailBreak. There are just a sheer number of bugs with the current FAdmin that a large portion of the commands are either unusable or are used for another purpose. Here is a small list of some of the current problems with FAdmin:


Some reasons to switch to ULX are:
- Less bugs.
- Numerous plugins.
- Cleaner ban list.
- Ban characters (Ex: 4w = 4 weeks. FAdmin does everything in minutes. GL using console or chat.)
- Commands appear in chat. (Easier to see for aboose. Players actually know when Staff are doing things.
- Cleaner and more organized menu (Xgui).
- Who commands lets you see all playing staff members.
- SourceBans! and SourceBan plugins.
- More features.

Lastly, it looks like other JailBreak servers are using ULX themselves and they seem to be doing just as good, if not better, than our server. I was a staff member of TTT for quite some time and so I've spent a bit of time using it; and I honestly thing that it is much better than FAdmin. The only people that say otherwise are RP players who don't suffer what us JB staff members undergo with this ill-suited administrative plugin. FAdmin was made specifically for RP, and ULX was made for ALL servers.

Also, here is another plugin that might go well with ULX.
- SUI_Scoreboard

It isn't hard to code a lua file for ULX that give weapons or switches team, ask lars and I am sure he would:P

ULX is always better.

Kenny Densonroo wrote:
Listen to kenny.

Kenny Densonroo wrote:


Im sure that any JB staff who has used ULX can agree. And this alone should be enough to switch over.

Its nice